League of Designs

BobaFlautist said () :

I'm not sure if this is the place to post this, but I would suggest some sort of tweak to Malzahar Bot's ultimate.

Hey duder! Definitely the right place to post this :) We can't always respond to feedback (we get a LOT), but we do take the time to read it! It really helps us understand what feels good to play against, and what leaves you feeling rekt by something entirely out of your control.

• Last year I felt like Teemo made more appearances, it wasn't as hard to summon him. This time around I feel like I have hardly had any interaction with Teemo at all.

• This actually hasn't changed. Teemo just spawns at 15 minutes, no matter what :P

• There needs to be more clarity on the Udyr camps and their spawning

• Agree! We have plans for this next run :D

• I haven't seen when we vote for difficulty like we did last year, maybe that is missing on purpose or I am just blind.

• We removed it in June (last time the mode ran). We found from data that people generally either played the base difficulty, one more difficulty after that (50 or so) and then played 100 almost exclusively. We didn't see the need to keep the voting experience now that the first run was done. So the 2nd one defaults to level 100.

We could certainly nerf Trist jump to be interrupted by CC but that would likely make the spell feel pretty awful to use, the vast majority of dashes in our game cannot be canceled in that way and I'm not sure Trist's W should be uniquely bad in that regard considering it has a .5 second cast time. We could lower the cast time (or remove it completely), but that would likely make her mobility overall STRONGER)

Copy pasting my response to a recent reddit thread on the subject of Trist and buffering below:

This is due to cast-time buffering. To compensate for things like network lag, spells in League that have cast times are favored to go off (even if you are stunned during said cast time). This does create some frustrating experiences where you land your hook on Trist and she just bounces out of it, but on the flip side, if the spell were instant, that hook would have never landed in the first place. Trist's W is strong to be sure, but it having a cast time makes it a good degree weaker. Better she's stunned after jumping away from you than never stunned at all.

To get into what I mean by "network lag compensation," imagine you're playing against Riven (who has an instant stun with no cast time, enabling it to preempt your cast times) and Annie (who's Q stuns after a travel time). If you push Q at the same time Annie does, both of your spells will go off, as her stun takes a bit to reach you. If you push Q at the same time as Riven stun, it's very possible that (based on latency) Riven's stun will go off slightly before your spell. If this happens, not only will you be stunned, but you will be left wondering why your spell didn't go off. You pushed the button when you weren't stunned, and yet the spell failed to cast. Makes the game feel clunky and unresponsive, and at times will cause players to do things they don't want to (like continue running into a fight after the stun wears off because they thought they had cast their dash/ult/fight turner which would have made them stop for a cast time and change their trajectory).

These types of interactions are one of the reasons silences (especially instant ones like Raka E) feel so bad in our game. They have poor feedback that something has happened, and so players attempt to cast their spells, don't get a result, run places they don't want since there was no cast time to stop them, and then come out of it feeling like the game is laggy and unresponsive.

Another question we could ask, in a hypothetical world where Trist feels oppressive is: What should be true about the rest of Trist's kit given she has such a powerful W (that resets quite a bit).

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I think a lot of this comes down to the perception of how much more gold you feel coin is actually giving you versus how much it actually gives in comparison to other support items. When you are collecting gold from ancient coin, there's far more visible ceremony that both the holder and the opponent can see. 1. I walk up to a coin and it jumps to my champion 2. you hear a little %%%%% 3. You see the +25/+40 pop up above the holders head.

For the STE line I think the perception that it gives less gold comes down to a few points. 1. When you proc the charges the gold value is broken up into smaller values 8/15 per target, as opposed to 25/40 from one coin 2. The gold gained displays over the enemy as opposed to the support - harder to attribute where the gold is going. 3. There's a lot of additional noise that can cause you to miss the fact this was even proced. When harassing in lane phase you pay attention to it, but in fights you're caring about killing, not the little yellow numbers popping up over their heads.

I have a graph shows the gold gained from each of the support item lines that I'll link here, but first I want you guys to try to; 1. Rank the support items based on your perception of which gives the most gold 2. Take a stab at guessing what the gold differential between them is.

Out of curiosity, why do you feel like he is in need of any nerfs?

Oh wow I'm actually trolling. I'm just going to copy past the patch note :P

Nasus is supposed to be the late-game scaling juggernaut if he plays the laning phase right and gets stacked up. In practice, he ends up mostly hitting high-armor frontliners, and losing a lot of his expected efficiency as a result. Struggling to reach priority targets who kite well is an expected weakness of Nasus, but he should still feel impactful when he’s stuck hitting beefier targets.

E - Spirit Fire ARMOR REDUCTION 20/25/30/35/40 flat armor reduction ⇒ 15/20/25/30/35 percent armor reduction

R - Fury of the Sands NEWSPEEDY SAND While Nasus is empowered, Siphoning Strike’s cooldown is reduced by 50%

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And, I'm curious why collect all that BE?

That was my bad, and I am sorry. We are trying to figure out a way we can recover, but do not have any good ideas at this moment. The best I have at this moment is a sincere apology, and that we are looking for a good solution.

Pretty early days on both. Possible we ship item changes before kit adjustments or the other way around. Wanted to mention it now though in particular since we might throw some stuff on the PBE soonish and figured the context would be useful if so.

We think she's closer to an assassin than any other subclass, agree she's got some skirmisher aspects though certainly. We're cautious about giving her too much target access given her permanent camo post 6 and access to hard CC on a basic spell, both of which are not strengths other assassins (who do tend to have significantly better gap closing) have.

We're not doing much in the way of item change for pre-season, most of our focus is on Runes.

ShadowbladeTalon said () :

1. will we see the new champ soon?
2. will edge of night ever be reworked?
3. when is that level cap/blue essence change coming?

As usual I'll leave new champ teasing and revealing to the champion team.

No plans for Edge of Night at present.

Level cap, blue essence changes etc should all be at the start of pre-season (probably November 8th, though that could change of course).